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Kyle develops citywide recycling program

Posted by Sean Kimmons on Sep 1st, 2010 and filed under Featured, Kyle, Top Stories.




Tons of recyclables have been piling up at the landfill and will be sorted when TDS opens its new recycling center this month.

Stacks of 96-gallon bins stand ready to be delivered.

by SEAN KIMMONS

Kyle city officials are in negotiations with Texas Disposal Systems to develop a city-wide recycling program, which would redirect tons of rubbish from the landfill and generate revenue for the city.

Since September 2009, roughly 800 homes in Amberwood and Indian Paintbrush subdivisions have participated in a three-cart pilot program, diverting hundreds of tons of recyclables and compost materials from the Creedmoor landfill owned by TDS, a local waste disposal company with a strong environmental track record.

In the program, each household is given three 96-gallon bins for trash, recyclables and compost materials. If the program goes city-wide, it would add about $4 to a household’s monthly garbage bill.

TDS officials claim that if the city added a five-year commercial franchise to the deal, making them responsible for trash pickup for local businesses, residents will save an estimated 94 cents per month.

If TDS serviced all accounts in the city, commercial rates would also reduce on average by 10 percent. The city could then use those extra funds, estimated at $50,000 per year, to help offset the cost of street repairs, said Rick Fraumann, TDS director of sales and customer care.

“We can increase the recycling options for the city and also offer an exclusive commercial element to increase recycling options for businesses and generate a revenue source for the city,” Fraumann told the council in August.

Fraumann also touted the idea that if his company serviced the entire city there would be fewer trucks on the road caused by using multiple providers. TDS already handles about 70 percent of the city.

Some estimates show Kyle’s population spiking to 90,000 by the year 2040. With rapid growth, councilmembers say recycling is essential to keep the strain off the local landfill, which currently handles 12,000 tons of trash a week.

“I feel that recycling has become a service that Kyle residents expect,” Mayor Lucy Johnson said.

She looks forward to the larger, covered bins instead of the small 18-gallon recycling bin outside her home, which occasionally blows away along with its contents, she said.

However, the extra cost and space that the three-cart service would entail could be a burden to some.

“I don’t think it should be forced on people,” Kyle resident Jerry Kolacny said during public comments.

Councilmember Jaime Sanchez agreed: “I can’t see myself imposing the cost in this recession to people who can’t afford it.”

Fraumann said that TDS plans to spend seven figures to roll out the program city-wide for new trucks, bins and employees.

Recyclables would be sorted through a new 100,000-square-foot recycling center slated to open this month at the 1,750-acre landfill site. The new recycling center will handle 20 tons of recyclables per hour and bring in 100 new jobs, Fraumann said.

Although the program costs more, he believes there’s value to it. The shorter a landfill’s lifespan, the more it will cost residents in the future.

“Over the long term, it’s the less expensive way to go,” he said.

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  • JohnA

    I dont have a problem with a voluntary programe .

    People having a choice is very important to me ,especially those on a fixed income
    there are only two of in this household and we hardly ever fill up the one 96 gallon bin we have now .
    there is just enought space for it to fit in the back yard beside the shed out of sight from the neighbors
    where would I put 3 of them ? in the house and move out to sleep in the shed ?..
    as i i said those who feel they have a need for it * buy into it * leave us who are happy with the service we have alone

  • Bill

    Not too sure if I agree with this program. I’m with JohnA. We also have a hard time keeping our current one out of sight, a requirement of the HOA.

    We can’t possibly find room for 2 extra ones unless we put them in the backyard. Then we will have a problem with pulling them through the yard on the side of the house. Now if the city wants to build a sidewalk from my driveway to the backyard to accomodate the new bins, I’m all for it.

    I guess I could always go buy a house with a 3-car garage…

  • Ken Swinson

    I agree with the two posts above – I DISAGREE WITH MAYOR JOHNSON and the KYLE CITY COUNCIL on this. This is pure and simple a tax to us disguised as something else. Our current trash service is fine. We don’t need this. It should be voluntary. It is $48 per household given to TDS with a kickback to the City Council — which equate to tax increase. The Mayor and Council need to be looking at cutting taxes and not BRAND NEW proposals to increase its citizens expenses in these tough economic times. SHAME ON YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. You know this is wrong, but our Mayor so eloquently stated – “We need to do this for the people.” I don’t intend on participating — although I know I will have to pay. I guess the next step will be for Mayor Johnson to submit a proposal before the Council to have those who don’t participate arrested and/or fined. This is where our local government (and Country) seem to be headed. We need to stop this — at the ballot box.

  • Patsy Swinson

    The mayor and council are charging ahead with something that the people have not approved. No one I have spoken with about this is the least bit in favor of it. Our taxes keep climbling and new fees are being tacked on while people are still losing their homes (not to mention the city’s $74 million debt). There is no reason why this can’t be voluntary. We won’t be participating in it as we are not currently participating in the recycling program currently in place. We don’t want more fees and where the heck will we put all those cans?

  • Cara

    I’m not sure why I expected anything less than more short-sighted thinking from the Kyle residents commenting here. Do you have any idea how much it takes to build a new landfill? Do you think there’s just an endless hole up there in Creedmore that we can just continue filling with our trash forever? Perhaps you would be happier if we could all just put a big ol’ pile of trash in our backyards and burn it?

    Those of you that aren’t recycling are probably using $4 worth of trashbags for the amount of trash you produce every month. I hate driving through my neighborhood on trash day seeing residents with an overflowing trashcan plus 3 or 4 extra bags of trash next to it. Recycling is not difficult or expensive people.

    The ONLY thing I agree with the previous commenters on is that it’s going to be a pain to store these cans. Our HOA doesn’t allow us to keep the bins on the side of the house if they’re visible from the street, so we have to keep them in the garage.

  • lila Knight

    A “kick-back” to City Council??????

    I’m assuming you are referring to the fees the CITY OF KYLE will collect as part of the contract with TDS…which is probably about what the CITY OF KYLE is currently collecting under the existing contract. The “proposed contract” is available to everyone in the last agenda packet of the City Council meeting (on city’s website).

    According to Mr. Dictionary: A kick-back is “a percentage of income given to a person in a position of power or influence as payment for having made the income possible and considered improper or unethical; a rebate usually given secretively by a seller to a buyer or to one who influenced the buyer.”

    While exaggerations in language are commonly used to inflate a person’s argument, in this particular case – the misnomer could be considered libelous. The American public enjoys the right to ridicule and call our elected officials just about anything they would like – the only exception is when they are falsely accused of committing a crime. I don’t believe the author of the above comment really intended their use of the word to imply an illegal wrong-doing by any member of our City Council. But it is sometimes useful to think for just a minute about the implication of particular words before striking out in anger.

  • GiGi

    First, Cara, I totally concur with your observations & comments. Kudos to Kyle city officials for their forward thinking on an issue that will only continue to encumber our city as its population continues to grow.

    Sadly, however, as I pass out of my neighborhood on trash day, I too see many trash bins overflowing with bulging lids and/or side bags of extra trash while the recycle canister is nowhere in sight. From the road, I can see milk jugs, soda bottles, etc. crammed into the trash bin which – instead of being recyled – are on their way to taking up precious space in the landfill. (Some metropolitan areas actually “inspect” trash content and will fine anyone who is disposing of a disproportionate amount of recyclables.)

    Folks, it’s pay relatively little now, or pay a lot more later. Wake up and get real about the real cost of our consumerism and short-sightedness. Dealing with finding space for an extra rolling canister (or 2) seems a small price to pay for what we’ll get back from it in the long run.

  • Jason F

    I’m all for recycling, but we already park two vehicles in our garage and this leaves no room for a single trashcan in there. Where are we going to place these other two? Will they force the HOA’s to allow members to store these can’s outside? The council and Mayor are out of touch with reality.

  • handyman

    After having the three cans for the past year, I don’t know how I would do without them. Most of the trash goes into the recycle bin. There are some weeks I dont even put out the trash because there is none! The yard clippings go in the compostable along with pizza boxes and ice cream containers. I must admit it was annoying at first but you can adapt to the cans.

    Just remember…Single stream recycling is FUN!

  • Susan Williams

    Lila, you always seem to have an awful lot of time to sit around and bash the well-informed residents who dare to speak out against your precious oppressive government. Don’t you have a cauldron to go stir or something?

  • Mia

    I would love to have a full size recycle bin! Right now, the bin we have fills up in about a day and blows away on Monday morning when we put it on the curb. We generally end up not recycling what we could because of the lack of space! We currently have two full size trash cans that we store anyways. If we had a full size recycle only can, our regular trashcan could hold the actual trash. Now where to put the 3rd one?

  • James Sorettello

    Why all the hatred here? I’m proud to say that I’m a christian (and unafraid), but very far from perfect. Obviously, the Swinson and Williams on here aren’t christian (or don’t try to follow it), but I forgive you for the name calling and making accusations. As we all should. And whether she’s a christian or not, I’m sure Mrs. Knight forgives you as well. Whether you are christian, or not, please, let’s be more positive. We already live in a time that is very hateful, no matter what your views are.
    It sounded to me like Mrs. Knight was giving the benefit of the doubt to Swinson. But obviously Mrs. Williams didn’t like that or has some sort of hatred for Mrs. Knight. Whether that’s true or not really doesn’t matter much. But let’s ask ourselves “What Would Jesus Do?” and try to work together to solve the obvious differences some you may have. Otherwise, things will only get worse.

    “A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another” John 13:34–35

    Remember we all love our communities. If you don’t then I suggest finding one you do love. Nobody is forcing anyone to live there. It’s ok to disagree, but let’s keep it to the actual facts and forgo the hateful name calling and false accusations. Btw… Love is a verb.

    Blessed day to all.

  • gina

    I would like to have a large recycling bin and compost bin in addition to the garbage bin we have. I came from a city which had all of these items and it makes sense that if we can be better stewards of the things that we have (recycling) then it’s worth the extra few seconds it takes to sort the items.

    The poster who asked “where would be put all these cans?” That’s kind of the whole point isn’t it? With recycling, the cans would be recycled and made into something else! It goes back into being useful rather than just left over trash sitting in a landfill created by the excesses of American lifestyles.
    Seriously, look at that photo. Most of the bottles, cans, etc… can be made into thousands of different articles once properly recycled. Does that not seem silly that we have the capability to change these things regarded as trash, yet we do not because we don’t think WE’ll ever see a problem from it (yet we leave it for our grandchildren). I’m no environmentalist, but part of it grates me to my core that here is an item that can be regenerated and re-purposed into a new product or item for commerce, business, etc.. and it’s just there laying around filling up a landfill when folks are complaining about lack of jobs.

    I too live where the HOA would flip out about having cans outside, so if this is something that comes into fruition, then I suggest the council also implement a rule that a HOA can’t fine someone for leaving the additional bins out.
    I’m sure this will also create more ruckus by others.

  • Susan Williams

    Mr. Sorettello, if you hang around any sort of political event in Kyle, you will find that Ms. Knight is attached to almost every council member by the hip. There is not one city issue I have followed that she has not insisted on getting involved in and arguing with anyone and everyone who dares have a differing viewpoint. However, I forgive you your ignorance.

    I am TIRED of watching my rights and my nation be handed over to a bunch of socialists and being told that I need to be “tolerant” that my paycheck is funding things that I do not agree with.

    By the way, I am trying to leave this community. My home has been for sale all summer. But guess what? Nobody is buying it because nobody wants to live here and pay these ridiculous taxes that continue to rise each year, in spite of the national recession.

    And in regards to “What Would Jesus Do?”, Galatians 5:1 comes to mind: “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”

  • James Sorettello

    Good points all. But I still don’t see where the name calling and accusations fall. But it’s easy to justify. Of course, then again, Jesus never did call anyone names or make false accusations.

    Sounds more like you’re upset, because Mrs. Knight is getting involved and because you don’t agree with her, she’s the cause of all of your problems. When in reality you aren’t taking responsibility for your own failures as a citizen. And don’t worry, people aren’t buying your home because there isn’t any money to borrow. It’s happening everywhere. And I moved here recently because of Kyle’s low taxes compared to the majority of the other communities around the Greater Austin area (or Texas for that matter), my last hometown was just over 70 cents, plus the utilities are cheaper than anywhere else. Only place that even compared was actually Kyle’s neighbor, Buda. But Buda is looking like they haven’t invested in the future the way Kyle has. I love the Kyle people and the feeling of community. They have been great. Plus, there is no where I could find with what appears to be great growth prospects for my kids to grow up with. So the folks here are doing something right. But, of course that’s just me and my family’s needs.

    I respect your wishes and your desires, but it sure sounds like you’re only recently upset to the point of doing something about it and apparently Mrs. Knight is to blame for all your ills… so I’m sure the name calling will fix it. :<)

    Just a suggestion, but maybe if you were involved to the extent (and time according to you) Mrs. Knight was, then you'd be able to get your way more often. In my opinion, that's what makes this country great. If one side is pulling harder, then they'll get their way more often, that's only human nature. If the other was always pulling the same then things would be much more equal. Are you upset because Mrs. Knight appears to have more commitment to her community than you?

    So from the conversation it sounds like you are a tea party supporter, while, I'm assuming Mrs. Knight is more liberal in her beliefs. I'm a Republican myself, but the tea party looks more and more like a joke because of rhetoric such as a couple of comments here. Tea party, in my view, is only for the knee jerk reaction of people who are conservative, but are only now showing their concerns, probably out of some sort of guilt, for not doing their duty in the first place (because if they had spoken up earlier we wouldn't be in this fix). I'm disappointed at the tea party, because these people think they can get off their couches and fix everything by throwing a fit like my 3 yr old and get their way. When if they had been active in their local and federal politics in the first place we wouldn't be in this position as a country. So I blame them for the situation our country is in. It takes a constant pulling, rather than this jerking action, that get's things back to the way it should be. The pulling should be even on both sides to make our country work. I'm glad you're waking up, but make sure your efforts continue on and on. And teach your children too. Without the fits of course…

    But again, their is no place (none) for the name calling or false accusations. If you are a tea party person then I'm sure you don't appreciate being called a racist by the people on the left, so why the name calling. Two wrongs don't make a right. God loves every man equally. So shouldn't we do the same.

    Hope things work out for you with your home.

    Best Wishes!

  • Ken Swinson

    Miss Lila and Mr. Sorettello: First, Mr. Sorettello, I have not brought religion into anything I have discussed. It is ridiculous to “judge” someone’s Christianity based on a discussion about politics and city councils spending taxpayer money. As citizens of Kyle, we have a right to disagree, even vehemently, with the way our tax dollars are being spent. To date NOBODY has given me an answer as to why this issue of a new contract in recycling was even debated by the council. It is a TOTALLY new expense on something that I am unaware was ever a problem. Of course Ms. Knight will say that shows how uninformed I am. My trash service is great as it is. I do not need to pay $4 more for additional service I don’t need. These are hard times and the City Council should be looking at cuts and not new ways of increasing costs on services we already have for which the citizens were NOT up in arms about. It should be “Voluntary” as it is just an extension of trash services. If you want to pay $48 a year more and recycle, please do so to your hearts content. But, please consider us citizens that don’t have extra cash to pay for this. It would be so simple to make it “Voluntary”. As far as Ms. Knight’s comment on kickback — well, I did NOT know that the current contract is giving, as she says in her post, “about what the CITY OF KYLE is collecting under the existing contract”. Well, well, if that is the case why is the article in the newspaper and arguments in favor of the proposal by some city council members, that we will get $50,000 for the new contract. Hmm. Also, my definition of a kickback is pretty close to what you said Lila, and I stick with my “name calling and accusations” as Mr. Sorettello said. (As he was namecalling my daughter and I when accusing us of not being christian.) Now, Ms. Knight, you defined a kickback as “a percentage of income given to a person in a position of power or influence as payment for having made the income possible and considered improper or unethical…” Well, what in the heck is this TDS contract. The only thing I see different from your Mr dictionary definition is that the “person in a position” should also be person(s). A percentage of income is being given to the city council (people in a position of power or influence) for making a contract with a company as payment for making the income possible and considered “IMPROPER”. You can argue all you want, this contract can be considered improper by some people without labelling them as “intolerant”, “stupid”, “bigoted”, “un-Christian” and other names. Tolerance is a two way street, not only for those in power. Mr. Sorettello, even Jesus got angry and turned over the money table in front of the Temple didn’t he? He was angry because there were those who were using greed to obtain entry into His Holy House and I have no doubt that He was perfect. I forgive you for judging me though, and think you have a good idea for us to “work together to solve our differences”. It seems that a SIMPLE solution for an idiot like me would be to make this program “VOLUNTARY” and I will be a happy little simpleton. Please note that the name calling is me calling myself names. Lila, I was not inferring that the “kickback” was a crime. I was intimating that it is improper (in my view point) to be collecting “additional” monies for this contract without calling it what it is — which is a tax increase. TDS will be happy though. I’m sure they are doing it for cost — thereby the $50,000 rebate, kickback or whatever. How about the city not taking the rebate or kickback or whatever it is and reduce the $4 a month accordingly. I’m sure the Council would not want that though. They have the citizens best interest in this proposal.

  • James Sorettello

    OK… Should of kept it to myself. Lesson learned.

    Note to self: “Stay out of it and quit reading people’s comments”.

    Done

  • Lila Knight

    A belated “welcome” to Kyle to Mr. Sorettello. I’m so glad you like living here – and are appreciative of its people. It’s the people of Kyle who make this place a special place to live. They put a smile on my face each and everyday – and never fail to get me through those tough times.

  • Ken Swinson

    Guess what? I also welcome Mr. Sorettello to Kyle, even though I may differ in some issues from him. I don’t base a relationship on whether or not someone agrees with me on everything. I can “tolerate” different views, as well as express my own without “judging a persons worth to the community”. Ms. Knight had the same opportunity to give me a belated welcome to Kyle in previous “arguments”, but it appears she is only really interested in having people live in Kyle that agree with her. Ms. Knight, in ALL SERIOUSNESS — I do not dislike you at all, but you do have a way of presenting yourself as someone who thinks they are better than most others and that your opinion is the only opinion of worth. (That is the way it comes across to me.) You are very involved with the City of Kyle (and that isn’t bad) but it seems that you only think your viewpoint should be heard and that there should be no opposition from others, because we aren’t fully informed. You use your “influence” to try and get your way and have a great distaste for any opposition. (I am not calling you names and not meaning to “belittle” you — for who am I to do that? I am just giving my honest opinion from my perspective.) Now, I can guess that your response will be your opinion of me — but I want you to know that I DO listen to different sides of an issue and am not all these names that liberals, et. al are calling “tea-partiers”. I am not calling you a liberal and I am not a tea partier, although I certainly lean heavily to that political landscape. I think the citizens of Kyle desereve an answer as to why this re-cycling (new tax) is such an important topic during these economic times, and why it cannot be voluntary. Believe it or not, all people are not honest and ethical. There very well could be an underlying benefit to a few individuals to have this new recycling. I am not accusing. I am simply asking, what is so special about this and what brought it to the forefront of City of Kyle business? Someone will certainly benefit big time economically on this?

  • Patsy Swinson

    James is the only one calling people names here, and saying someone is not a Christian is the biggest insult of all. I am proud to be both a Christian AND and tea party supporter. I do not know of any tea partiers throwing “fits”. It is not the tea partiers’ fault that the country is going down the liberal toilet. They are the ones trying to save it. it is the liberals doing the damage. And as for what Jesus would do, I do know for sure that he never did and never would take money from anyone without their consent, to spend on something they didn’t want. And Gina, what we mean by what to do with “all those cans” refers to all those huge trash cans, which will not be recycled but clutter up our yards and garages. We are very eco-friendly and do not waste anything. We just don’t want a program forced on us against our will and we don’t want to pay more money for something we don’t need. Let those who want it have it and pay for it.

  • rem

    if you don’t like the taxes now, wait til you have to pay for a new landfill because recycling was too much of a hassle.

  • Patsy Swinson

    I do not object to recycling and have no problem participating in it — VOLUNTARILY. It should and could be offered to the citizens of Kyle free of charge, as it is in some other places. The company doing it will be profiting off our recycled items so why should we pay for it? There is plenty of money being made here that the people don’t need to be paying for it while doing part of the company’s work for them.

  • Susan Williams

    See, this is why the liberal socialists just don’t get it — they cannot understand the basic logic behind our concerns. Let me try to break it down for you:

    If anyone protests against any kind of tax increase, we are accused of hating ____ (fill in the blank with your pet topic of choice – the planet, welfare programs, whatever). That is a totally incorrect assumption. The truth is we hate being FORCED to pay without our consent. Specifically, if this recycling thing was made voluntary, most of us would be fine with it.

    The program itself doesn’t matter, nor does the amount that it will raise our taxes – the city council could be attempting to charge 50-cents a month to save puppies and kitties (which I love dearly) and I still would be upset that it was being forced on citizens. It is our money that we have worked for, so we should be allowed to choose for ourselves.

    So, how could the city make almost everyone happy? Make it a voluntary program. But guess what… they have already said they “can’t do that”, although nobody can give a logical reason why. I can hazard a guess though — fewer participants would mean a smaller monetary kickback in the city coffers.

    This issue is not about recycling! It’s about CHOICE.

  • http://www.libertybasics.com Jason Welch

    Just FYI, here is an incomplete list of names Jesus called the deserving:

    blind guides (Matt. 23:16), fools (Matt. 23:17), like whited supulchres…full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness (Matt. 23:27), serpents (Matt. 23:33), vipers (Matt. 23:33), hypocrites! (Luke 11:44).

    Its funny to me that liberals side with big business, and monopoly if it furthers their agenda. Yet another example of the ends justify the means.

  • Ken Swinson

    A belated “welcome” to Kyle to Mr. (Welch). I’m so glad you like living here — and are appreciative of it’s people. It’s people like you in Kyle who make this place a special place to live. They put a smile on my face each and everyday — and never fail to ge me through those touch times. (Editorial note: I guess implying that people who disagree with me do not make it such a place.) They put a smile on my face each and everyday — and never fail to get me through those tough times.

    (EDITORIAL NOTE: This post is intended to be almost an identical paraphrase, of Ms. Knights posting of 9/4 above, which I interpret as a direct intentional slap to me for expressing my views. Of course, I’m uninformed, so maybe I am mis-judging her point in the post.

    It certainly seems that she is implying in her post that if one disagrees with her views, they do not make Kyle a special place — although she did say “it’s the people of Kyle” I am astute enough to interpret that she meant it as “It’s people in Kyle like you Mr. Sorettello” and not all people in Kyle.

    I am a friend of Mr. Welch, and indeed glad he lives in Kyle as well as all of Kyle’s residents of all races, sexes, and religious beliefs. If you are a law-abiding citizen, WELCOME to Kyle and the United States of America, recycling or not.

  • JohnA

    As the initiater of this thread let me hopefully post some closing remarks .

    the intent of this thread was to incite discussion on a important and highly contraversal proposition that is before our city council
    .
    A t no time did i fore see that it would hit rock bottom and turn into personal attacks on posters and even more disheartening the religious beliefs they may or may not hold ,
    faith and belief in a god is a PERSONA.L MATTER and not the premise put forward here
    there are plenty of sites and even topics on this site that a person can air religious views as per their freedom of speech.

    i would PREFER in answer to my original post that responders keep to the subject matter as to there opinion and what effect it will have on there lives and freedom regarding the new refuse disposal contract presently before the city council .

  • http://bestsolarworks.com Darwin Birchfield

    I have looked at eco-friendly alternatives, so far I have installed solar panels on my home but while looking for a electric car I find the cost doesnt justify it for me. While I am passionate about making green choices whenever possible it is up to people like you and I to spread awareness and let the companies know there is a demand. Your website looks popular and I think you can help influence society with your insight and eco tips. by the way I found your site by searching Kyle develops citywide recycling program | The Hays Free Press and you were the first result. So I think your website is a good platform to discuss ideas that are thought provoking and influence your readers to go green. – Good luck with your site, you deserve it – Bill

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